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That's a wrap! Thanks for a great season. See you all next year!
We should be shooting 2nd Saturday and 4th Sunday again next year.
Final schedule to be finalized in February.
We should be shooting 2nd Saturday and 4th Sunday again next year.
Final schedule to be finalized in February.
Results...
jeweler jim
Posse Whipping Boy
<div class="IPBDescription">Not Official but...</div>Thought that I would post some results of the TG vote as I understand it.<br />
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Obviously this is unofficial and it needed a two thirds (2/3) majority to pass any item (which I did not remember, i.e. item number eight [8] got a majority but did not pass with the two thirds). I believe that the Wild Bunch still has the ability to not go with any item that got the two thirds vote, but doubt that they will do that in any case. You will note that some of the agenda items got some revision in wording which is not a bad thing (one example of this is item number four which after rewording is a good thing). Have also included the address for the thread that has reported on this on the SASS Wire. Realize that anything on the SASS Wire can sometimes get a little heated and the reactions have already started coming in with some saying they're gonna quit cowboy shooting. Anything worth doing is worth doing to excess, so I guess reactions of some fall into that category. <br />
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http://sassnet.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=114342&hl=<br />
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I have put how we voted in RED.<br />
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AGENDA ITEM VOTING RESULTS<br />
<br />
1. Passed 194 for, 79 against, 5 abstained Y<br />
1. Should we combine the Traditional and Modern categories and then split this combination into two age based categories, with the age breaks being at 17 and up / 36 and up? This would give us age based categories for all ages. All age based categories would allow the use of all SASS legal firearms, propellants and shooting styles except Gunfighter. <br />
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Clarifications, the passing of this does not allow adjustable sighted guns in Gunfighter and black powder categories.<br />
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2. Failed 137 for, 140 against, 1 abstained Y<br />
2. Should we allow the use of the Gunfighter shooting style in all age based categories except the Buckaroo and Junior categories?<br />
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3. Passed 231 for, 45 against, 2 abstained Y<br />
3. Should we replace the line Outlawed Clothing displaying manufacturers or sponsors logos with The displaying of sponsors or team logos on apparel is prohibited. Manufacturers labels on such apparel or equipment are acceptable?<br />
<br />
4. Passed 265 for, 13 against, 0 abstained N<br />
4. Stage Conventions Item #3 requires all long guns staged horizontally shall be staged lying flat where at least the rear of the trigger guard is on the staging area. Should we add All horizontally staged handguns must be staged with the entire handgun lying flat on the staging surface?<br />
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5. Passed 250 for, 24 against, 4 abstained Y<br />
5. Should we clarify the costuming requirements as follows? ALL Clothing and equipment MUST BE worn appropriately, how it was intended and how it would have been worn in the OLD WEST or as seen on B Western movies and Television.<br />
<br />
6. Failed 64 for, 213 against, 1 abstained N<br />
6. Should we allow a shooter to retrieve a dropped round? The current rule actually assumes that a safety rule could potentially occur when retrieving dropped rounds. We have rules in place that address safety issues when they occur.<br />
<br />
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7. Passed 224 for, 54,against, 0 abstained N<br />
7. Should we change the verbiage about de-cocking a firearm from De-cocking a revolver, rifle, or external hammer shotgun may not be done with a live round under the hammer. De-cocking may not be done to avoid a penalty if cocked at the wrong time or position. To, de-cocking may not be done to avoid a penalty if cocked at the wrong time or position. No gun may be de-cocked on the firing line except by pointing it down-range and pulling the trigger or while under the direct supervision of a stage officer.<br />
<br />
8. Failed 147 for, 129 against, 2 abstained Y<br />
8. Should we change the rule regarding empties left on the carrier or in the chamber of a long gun? A live round in the chamber would continue to carry a Stage Disqualification penalty and a live round on the carrier a 10 second minor safety. This change would eliminate all penalties for empty rounds in the chamber or on the carrier of long guns only.<br />
<br />
<br />
9. Failed 143 for, 133 against, 2 abstained N<br />
9. Should we allow gunfighters to carry revolvers in the butt forward manner? We have rules in place that address safety issues when they occur.<br />
<br />
<br />
10. Passed 226 for, 50 against, 2 abstained, Y<br />
10. Should we allow ejectors on single shot shotguns?<br />
<br />
<br />
11. Passed 202 for, 74 against, 2 abstained Y<br />
11. Should we add the following verbiage to address aerial shotgun targets for Buckaroos and Buckarettes? An alternate target MUST be provided for all aerial shotgun targets for Buckaroo and Buckerette shooters<br />
<br />
So with a few exceptions we are in line with what took place. <br />
/>
Obviously this is unofficial and it needed a two thirds (2/3) majority to pass any item (which I did not remember, i.e. item number eight [8] got a majority but did not pass with the two thirds). I believe that the Wild Bunch still has the ability to not go with any item that got the two thirds vote, but doubt that they will do that in any case. You will note that some of the agenda items got some revision in wording which is not a bad thing (one example of this is item number four which after rewording is a good thing). Have also included the address for the thread that has reported on this on the SASS Wire. Realize that anything on the SASS Wire can sometimes get a little heated and the reactions have already started coming in with some saying they're gonna quit cowboy shooting. Anything worth doing is worth doing to excess, so I guess reactions of some fall into that category. <br />
<br />
http://sassnet.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=114342&hl=<br />
<br />
I have put how we voted in RED.<br />
<br />
AGENDA ITEM VOTING RESULTS<br />
<br />
1. Passed 194 for, 79 against, 5 abstained Y<br />
1. Should we combine the Traditional and Modern categories and then split this combination into two age based categories, with the age breaks being at 17 and up / 36 and up? This would give us age based categories for all ages. All age based categories would allow the use of all SASS legal firearms, propellants and shooting styles except Gunfighter. <br />
<br />
Clarifications, the passing of this does not allow adjustable sighted guns in Gunfighter and black powder categories.<br />
<br />
2. Failed 137 for, 140 against, 1 abstained Y<br />
2. Should we allow the use of the Gunfighter shooting style in all age based categories except the Buckaroo and Junior categories?<br />
<br />
3. Passed 231 for, 45 against, 2 abstained Y<br />
3. Should we replace the line Outlawed Clothing displaying manufacturers or sponsors logos with The displaying of sponsors or team logos on apparel is prohibited. Manufacturers labels on such apparel or equipment are acceptable?<br />
<br />
4. Passed 265 for, 13 against, 0 abstained N<br />
4. Stage Conventions Item #3 requires all long guns staged horizontally shall be staged lying flat where at least the rear of the trigger guard is on the staging area. Should we add All horizontally staged handguns must be staged with the entire handgun lying flat on the staging surface?<br />
<br />
5. Passed 250 for, 24 against, 4 abstained Y<br />
5. Should we clarify the costuming requirements as follows? ALL Clothing and equipment MUST BE worn appropriately, how it was intended and how it would have been worn in the OLD WEST or as seen on B Western movies and Television.<br />
<br />
6. Failed 64 for, 213 against, 1 abstained N<br />
6. Should we allow a shooter to retrieve a dropped round? The current rule actually assumes that a safety rule could potentially occur when retrieving dropped rounds. We have rules in place that address safety issues when they occur.<br />
<br />
<br />
7. Passed 224 for, 54,against, 0 abstained N<br />
7. Should we change the verbiage about de-cocking a firearm from De-cocking a revolver, rifle, or external hammer shotgun may not be done with a live round under the hammer. De-cocking may not be done to avoid a penalty if cocked at the wrong time or position. To, de-cocking may not be done to avoid a penalty if cocked at the wrong time or position. No gun may be de-cocked on the firing line except by pointing it down-range and pulling the trigger or while under the direct supervision of a stage officer.<br />
<br />
8. Failed 147 for, 129 against, 2 abstained Y<br />
8. Should we change the rule regarding empties left on the carrier or in the chamber of a long gun? A live round in the chamber would continue to carry a Stage Disqualification penalty and a live round on the carrier a 10 second minor safety. This change would eliminate all penalties for empty rounds in the chamber or on the carrier of long guns only.<br />
<br />
<br />
9. Failed 143 for, 133 against, 2 abstained N<br />
9. Should we allow gunfighters to carry revolvers in the butt forward manner? We have rules in place that address safety issues when they occur.<br />
<br />
<br />
10. Passed 226 for, 50 against, 2 abstained, Y<br />
10. Should we allow ejectors on single shot shotguns?<br />
<br />
<br />
11. Passed 202 for, 74 against, 2 abstained Y<br />
11. Should we add the following verbiage to address aerial shotgun targets for Buckaroos and Buckarettes? An alternate target MUST be provided for all aerial shotgun targets for Buckaroo and Buckerette shooters<br />
<br />
So with a few exceptions we are in line with what took place. <br />
Comments
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Well done, JJ.<br />
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After the WB gets done approving, I'm going to have to be re-trained. (if that is possible)<br />
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WR<br />
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