CCW - about what we expected

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Ill. Legislature passes concealed carry law<br />
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SPRINGFIELD – Illinois would become the last state in the nation to allow the public possession of concealed firearms with a bill approved Friday by the state Legislature.[/font][font=Palatino, Georgia, Times, 'Times New Roman', serif]<br />
A 89-28 vote by the Illinois House on Friday —the last day before lawmakers adjourn their spring session— sealed a hard-fought compromise worked out after a federal appeals court ordered in December that Illinois drop its ban by June 9.[/font][font=Palatino, Georgia, Times, 'Times New Roman', serif]<br />
The legislation now goes to Gov. Pat Quinn, a Chicago Democrat who has not indicated whether he'll sign it.[/font][font=Palatino, Georgia, Times, 'Times New Roman', serif]<br />
The 7th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals ruled in December that Illinois' ban on the public possession of concealed weapons is unconstitutional. All 49 other states allow concealed carry, though some have stricter regulations than others.[/font][font=Palatino, Georgia, Times, 'Times New Roman', serif]<br />
Illinois' compromise measure reflected the division between gun rights advocates across the state and gun control supporters in Chicago, which is battling a surge in gang violence and murders since last year.[/font][font=Palatino, Georgia, Times, 'Times New Roman', serif]<br />
An early proposal to allow for concealed carry sought to eliminate all local gun ordinances, including Chicago's ban on assault weapons. But that provision was opposed by Quinn, Chicago Mayor Rahm Emanuel and other Chicago Democrats.[/font][font=Palatino, Georgia, Times, 'Times New Roman', serif]<br />
The negotiated settlement approving concealed carry would allow local governments to retain their own rules. But it would block them from creating new rules for transporting guns and assault weapons restrictions.[/font][font=Palatino, Georgia, Times, 'Times New Roman', serif]<br />
Sen. Kwame Raoul, a Chicago Democrat and supporter of tighter restrictions, conceded ground on carrying guns in establishments that serve alcohol. Residents would be allowed to carry guns into restaurants and other business that serve alcohol if liquor comprises no more than 50 percent of their sales.[/font][font=Palatino, Georgia, Times, 'Times New Roman', serif]<br />
Chicago Democrats would have gotten all of what they requested in terms of specific gun-free zones, including mass transit buses and trains, schools, other government buildings, parks, hospitals and street festivals.[/font][font=Palatino, Georgia, Times, 'Times New Roman', serif]<br />
But Rep. Brandon Phelps, a southern Illinois Democrat who sponsored the House proposal, was able to keep in a provision making automobiles a "safe harbor" — meaning a secured gun could be kept in a car, even if it's parked in a prohibited place.[/font][font=Palatino, Georgia, Times, 'Times New Roman', serif]<br />
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The bill is HB183[/font][font=Palatino, Georgia, Times, 'Times New Roman', serif]<br />
Online: http://www.ilga.gov[/font]

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[size="+0"]Senator Kowtowski on the Senate Floor:<br />
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We got this video from the Blueroomstream! <br />
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Posted Fri May 31 17:28:18 CDT 2013<br />
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[size="+0"]Tribune: Illinois lawmakers approve concealed carry gun bill[/size][/font]

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SPRINGFIELD --- State lawmakers today approved compromise legislation to set up rules on who can carry concealed guns and where they can be carried. <br />
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Illinois is the last state in the nation not to have some form of concealed carry on the books, but a federal appeals court overturned the state’s long standing ban in December and gave lawmakers until June 9 to come up with regulations to allow it. <br />
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"Don't let your constituents go off the cliff, this is a historic day for law abiding gun owners in this state," said sponsoring Rep. Brandon Phelps, D-Harrisburg. <br />
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Under the proposal, concealed weapons would be banned from numerous sites, such as CTA and Metra buses and trains, casinos, government buildings and stadiums. But lawmakers said the bill would allow people to carry concealed weapons in restaurants where alcohol is served but more than half of the sales are for food ... <br />
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Read the whole story in the Chicago Tribune. <br />
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Posted Fri May 31 16:49:38 CDT 2013<br />
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[size="+0"]How did your State Representative vote on HB183 concurrence?[/size][/font]

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There were three amendments to this that needed concurrence in the house to match what was approved in the Senate, Amendments 5, 6, & 7. All of the reps pretty much voted the same way on each of the three concurrence votes. Here we link to the vote for amendment 5.<br />
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See the vote list in this PDF from ILGA.gov <br />
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Posted Fri May 31 16:32:13 CDT 2013<br />
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[size="+0"]HB182 Shall issue CCW passes the Illinois House 89-28 <br />
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Now it's on to the governor for his signature - stay tuned!<br />
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Posted Fri May 31 16:21:07 CDT 2013<br />
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[size="+0"]HB 1346 (as amended), Kotowski's standard capacity magazine ban fails 28-31[/size][/font]

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HB 1346, Kotowski's standard capacity magazine ban fails 28-31. The good Senator was nearly in hysterics, we hear that he was mouthing: "Screw the gun industry and lobbyists."<br />
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How did your State Senator vote on the mag ban? Here's a PDF from ILGA.gov <br />
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Posted Fri May 31 16:07:02 CDT 2013<br />
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[size="+0"]How did your State Senator vote on HB183?[/size][/font]

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Here's the voting results in PDF format from ILGA.gov. <br />
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Posted Fri May 31 15:40:42 CDT 2013<br />
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[size="+0"]HB183 Shall Issue CCW passes Senate, goes to House for concurrence.[/size][/font]

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The bill passed on 45-12-1, and now is in the House. <br />
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This bill as amended has Shall-Issue CCW across the state, with preemption of regulations that would impact CCW. Some local ordinances (Semi-auto ban and mag capacities) are not preempted. Your car would generally be a safe haven, even in the parking lot of a prohibited area. There are several types of prohibited areas. Fees are $150 for 5 years, with 16 hours of training, and some credits given for veterans or those with previous training. <br />
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It's not a perfect bill, but it is CCW in Illinois, everywhere in Illinois.<br />
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Posted Fri May 31 15:26:53 CDT 2013<br />
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[size="+0"]Which CCW Bill, which mag ban?<br />
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Right now, HB183 is seeing the CCW action in the IL Senate.<br />
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Look at amendments 5&6 on HB0183 at ILGA.gov <br />
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dd

Yep, not the best. But not the worst either. Quinn still has to sign it. However, the way I understand it, Illinois' current laws against carrying are null and void on June 9th. So if Quinn doesn't sign it, then we revert to Constitutional Carry which is carry without a permit like Vermont.<br />
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We'll see what restrictions, training requirements, etc. will have to be dealt with. Once the lawyers pick the legislation apart and tell us what it really says and what loopholes and traps it has, then we can get down to the business of getting a permit.<br />
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Stay tuned! I'll continue to post the latest here.

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If you care to struggle your way through the CCW bill, here it is from the Illinois General Assembly website - <br />
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Replaces everything after the enacting clause. Creates the Firearm Concealed Carry Act. Allows residents and non-residents who meet specified qualifications to apply for a license to carry a concealed firearm in this State. The license is valid for 5 years and the license fee is $150 for a resident and $300 for a non-resident. Allows any law enforcement agency to object to a license applicant based upon a reasonable suspicion that the applicant is a danger to himself or herself or others, or a threat to public safety. Allows the Department of State Police to object to a license applicant with 5 or more arrests for any reason or 3 or more gang-related arrests within the 7 years preceding the date of application. These objections are reviewed by a Concealed Carry Licensing Review Board composed of 7 members appointed by the Governor with the advice and consent of the Senate. The Concealed Carry Licensing Review Board determines by a preponderance of the evidence whether the applicant is eligible or ineligible for a license. Prohibits a licensee from carrying a concealed handgun into certain specified locations. Requires the Department of State Police to approve a 16 hour training course for new license applicants and 3 hour course for license renewal, and to certify course instructors. Establishes training course requirements. Creates a task force to develop a plan by March 1, 2014 to allow for a Firearm Owner's Identification Card and concealed carry license designation to appear on a person's Illinois driver's license or Illinois identification card. Preempts home rule on the regulation, licensing, possession, registration, and transportation of concealed handguns as covered by the Act. Creates the School Administrator Reporting of Mental Health Clear and Present Danger Determinations Law. Requires the principal of a public elementary or secondary school, or his or her designee, and the chief administrative officer of a private elementary or secondary school or a public or private community college, college, or university, or his or her designee, to report to the Department of Human Services when a student is determined to pose a clear and present danger to himself, herself, or to others within 24 hours of the determination. Amends the Mental Health and Developmental Disabilities Code to make conforming changes and require notification to the Department of State Police Firearm Owners Identification Card Office no later than 7 days after entry of a court order for an adjudication as a mentally disabled or disabled person. Requires reporting a developmental disability or clear and present danger determination within 24 hours of the determination to the Department of Human Services, and the Department of Human Services must notify the Department of State Police. Firearms in the possession of a person adjudicated as a mentally disabled or disabled person must be ordered by the court to deliver the firearms to a person with a valid Firearm Owner's Identification Card for safekeeping. The adjudicated person shall also be ordered to surrender his or her Firearm Owner's Identification Card. Amends the Firearm Owners Identification Card Act (FOID). Defines "addicted to narcotics" for purposes of disqualifying a person for a Firearm Owner's Identification Card. Changes the disqualification for a Firearm Owner's Identification Card as a "mental defective" to "mentally disabled". Adds to the definition of "mentally disabled" an adjudication as a disabled person, a finding of guilty but mentally ill, or a determination that a person is a clear and present danger to himself, herself, or to others. Defines "clear and present danger". Preempts home rule on the regulation, licensing, possession, registration, and transportation of concealed handguns and ammunition for concealed handguns as covered by the FOID Act. Preempts home rule on the prohibition of possession or ownership of assault weapons unless the ordinance is enacted before, on, or within 10 days of the effective date of this Act and any amendments thereafter. Amends The Freedom of Information Act. Exempts from disclosure the names and information of persons who have applied for or received a concealed carry license and certain records under the Firearm Concealed Carry Act. Amends the Open Meetings Act to close meetings and deliberations of the Concealed Carry Licensing Review Board. Amends the Department of State Police Law of the Civil Administrative Code of Illinois and the State Finance Act. Creates the State Police Firearm Services Fund for fee revenue from the Firearm Owners Identification Card Act and Firearm Concealed Carry Act. The Department of State Police may use the Fund for its lawful purposes, mandates, functions, and duties under the Firearm Owners Identification Card Act and Firearm Concealed Carry Act. Creates the Mental Health Reporting Fund for fee revenue from the Firearm Concealed Carry Act for the Department of State Police and the Department of Human Services for duties in collecting and reporting data on mental health records and ensuring firearm possession prohibitions related to mental health are enforced. Surplus money in the Fund may be used for mental health treatment programs. Amends the Criminal Code of 2012 and other Acts to make conforming changes. Effective immediately.<br />
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Senate Floor Amendment No. 6<br />
Removes reference to "concealed" handguns in the preemption Section of the Firearm Concealed Carry Act.<br />
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Senate Floor Amendment No. 7<br />
Changes the appointment of the member representing the National Rifle Association to the task force on consolidation of the Firearm Owner's Identification Card and the concealed carry license from appointment by the Speaker of the House of Representatives to appointment by the Secretary of State.

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The above really doesn't tell us any details and we know the pre-emption was amended.

jeweler jim

[font=times new roman,times,serif]Will there be an upcoming explanation of what we're looking at in the near future? [/font]<br />
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[font=times new roman,times,serif]When anybody sees this or gets it please post it.[/font]<br />
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[font=times new roman,times,serif]Thinking the ILRA will probably come out with something first so DD can give us a head's up.[/font]

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Yes, I get a nearly continuous stream of emails from them, especially when important things are happening, like now. The emails usually are more timely than their website updates. But I'll continue to keep everyone posted on the latest information. The ISRA website is here http://www.isra.org in case you care to keep an eye on it.